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		<title>By: JordanCornblog</title>
		<link>http://www.jordancornblog.com/just-when-you-think-something-might-get-better/comment-page-1/#comment-4804</link>
		<dc:creator>JordanCornblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are most welcome to &quot;blow it up&quot; all you want - the insights (and videos) are great.  

On the marriage/civil union front I&#039;d go with civil unions for all (straight and gay) - and &quot;marriage&quot; for those who want the union sanctified somehow.  From a legal point of view, marriage would be a meaningless word.  I&#039;d just yank it right out of the debate entirely and let the churches do whatever they want.

Ours is such a reactionary and unsophisticated country ... and yet we are so terribly full of ourselves.  It would be laughable, if it didn&#039;t wreak so much havoc in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are most welcome to &#8220;blow it up&#8221; all you want &#8211; the insights (and videos) are great.  </p>
<p>On the marriage/civil union front I&#8217;d go with civil unions for all (straight and gay) &#8211; and &#8220;marriage&#8221; for those who want the union sanctified somehow.  From a legal point of view, marriage would be a meaningless word.  I&#8217;d just yank it right out of the debate entirely and let the churches do whatever they want.</p>
<p>Ours is such a reactionary and unsophisticated country &#8230; and yet we are so terribly full of ourselves.  It would be laughable, if it didn&#8217;t wreak so much havoc in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: AMR</title>
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		<dc:creator>AMR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not going to even touch on the abortion issue as it&#039;s difficult to manage emotions when two things you wanted to pass, did (Boehner Amendment shot down and health care bill passed) but at what cost to us???

As for the term &quot;marriage&quot;, I agree with you 100% on just going with civil unions.  Apparently, a few years back, NH tried to do just what you are saying but the &quot;other side&quot; (gays, straights, everyone else) felt like marriage should be the only term to be used for &quot;straight&quot; couples and civil unions had the stereotype of &quot;gays only&quot; attached to it.  I, personally, would rather have a civil union as long as it afforded me the same rights as marriage.  And that, unfortunately, is usually where the roadblock comes in.

If it&#039;s only about the word but the rights are the same, who cares??  But, rewriting all the laws to incorporate the same rights as marriage is, apparently, too much of an effort for folks.  So, we must seek the word marriage as if it is synonymous with equality.

PS - my apologies for blowing up your blog as of late.  I am surrounded by conservatives from almost every angle so it&#039;s nice to be able to have a place where I can express my thoughts without too much push back :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not going to even touch on the abortion issue as it&#8217;s difficult to manage emotions when two things you wanted to pass, did (Boehner Amendment shot down and health care bill passed) but at what cost to us???</p>
<p>As for the term &#8220;marriage&#8221;, I agree with you 100% on just going with civil unions.  Apparently, a few years back, NH tried to do just what you are saying but the &#8220;other side&#8221; (gays, straights, everyone else) felt like marriage should be the only term to be used for &#8220;straight&#8221; couples and civil unions had the stereotype of &#8220;gays only&#8221; attached to it.  I, personally, would rather have a civil union as long as it afforded me the same rights as marriage.  And that, unfortunately, is usually where the roadblock comes in.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s only about the word but the rights are the same, who cares??  But, rewriting all the laws to incorporate the same rights as marriage is, apparently, too much of an effort for folks.  So, we must seek the word marriage as if it is synonymous with equality.</p>
<p>PS &#8211; my apologies for blowing up your blog as of late.  I am surrounded by conservatives from almost every angle so it&#8217;s nice to be able to have a place where I can express my thoughts without too much push back <img src='http://www.jordancornblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JordanCornblog</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent points, Alice.  I wish that logic carried weight in these arguments.  And I wish that I had faith that our NH Senators had the same values (Gregg) and backbone (Shaheen) that our Reps do.  Neither one of them inspires my confidence.  I miss Teddy Kennedy this morning ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent points, Alice.  I wish that logic carried weight in these arguments.  And I wish that I had faith that our NH Senators had the same values (Gregg) and backbone (Shaheen) that our Reps do.  Neither one of them inspires my confidence.  I miss Teddy Kennedy this morning &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So those who decry government involvement in health care have manipulated the system to have government further restrict women&#039;s access to the most basic of legal, safe health care, namely abortion. It&#039;s so illogical as well as outrageous and, for me,  leeches any pleasure in the House&#039;s passage of a healthcare reform bill. I stayed up late last night and watched some eloquent arguments opposing this travesty, but the gloating of the so-called pro-life coalition of House members is what resonates this morning after, leaving me depleted, depressed and spent. Can the Senate version reverse and/or revise the House&#039;s powerful anti-choice statement? One can only hope, get up off the floor and begin making calls to argue the obvious: without access there is no choice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So those who decry government involvement in health care have manipulated the system to have government further restrict women&#8217;s access to the most basic of legal, safe health care, namely abortion. It&#8217;s so illogical as well as outrageous and, for me,  leeches any pleasure in the House&#8217;s passage of a healthcare reform bill. I stayed up late last night and watched some eloquent arguments opposing this travesty, but the gloating of the so-called pro-life coalition of House members is what resonates this morning after, leaving me depleted, depressed and spent. Can the Senate version reverse and/or revise the House&#8217;s powerful anti-choice statement? One can only hope, get up off the floor and begin making calls to argue the obvious: without access there is no choice!</p>
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